One Fight At A Time (Rule 5)

Well, the Phillies really did it this time. They really went out there and picked two guys in the Rule Five draft. The stones on this Amaro fellow.

Anyway, it’s true, and not at all problematic, that The Phillies did, in fact, snag two players in the Big League portion of the 2014 Rule 5 draft.

First up was a guy named Odubel Herrera, who some people call David, I guess. The club and the league had a moment there where they weren’t on the same page on the name, and the leap from Odubel to David was not being made by the league, for sure.

Either way, Herrera is an interesting cat. He’s already been linked to second base, left field and center field. Sounds like a Cesar Hernandez profile in the field, as the guy has not really played much CF at all (at least stateside), and would be asked to do so to help win a job. The soon-to-be 23-year-old Venezuelan native spent six years in the Rangers system, including most of 2014 at AA Frisco, where he lead the Texas league in batting average while posting a 124 wRC+. Not bad for a 22 year-old at AA. BA’s Ben Badler:

Now, Luis Valbuena hit a bunch of homers in the big leagues the last couple years, and Herrera hit two last year at AA, so don’t bank on the power at this point. The hit tool seems better with Herrera, too, so I think the comp is more for the field – a non-shortstop infielder who maybe plays some outfield, too. Sounds about right. Hopefully he can stick, as he give you a versatile guy you can ship up and down for 2016-2018 if he doesn’t have a starting spot on the big club.

The second pick today was Pittsburgh Lefty Andy Oliver. A former Big Leaguer, Oliver was described by BA’s JJ Cooper:

What Oliver appears to be is a lefty specialist in the making. He’s got 32 days of big league service time, after spending two short stints up with Detroit in 2010-11. He’d been a starter for his whole career, but Pittsburgh used him out of their AAA bullpen exclusively last year, and Matt Winkelman of Phillies Minor Thoughts summed that up:

Guy strikes out a lot of batters, but give up far too many walks. If the Phils can calm him down somehow, even to lose 25% of the walks, he could be serviceable out of the pen.

So did this move the needle for me? Sure. I like both guys. Either guys is going to have to impress in the spring to stick, but Herrera’s bat alone could do it. I see a chance even that Oliver could be offered back to PIT and not taken, leading him to Lehigh Valley and a chance to work out some more of the kinks in the pen. If Herrera is offered back to Texas, I think they would be glad to have him back in the fold. We shall see how it all plays out in Spring Training.

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  1. Romus

    December 11, 2014 03:02 PM

    Maybe Doobie will play out like an Astro Altuve.
    Roto labels him as strictly as a 2nd baseman.
    CF will be new territory for him.

    • Numisman

      December 11, 2014 07:17 PM

      If he is competent, and Utley is not traded or injured, maybe they can flip him to a team with an urgent need at 2B mid season.

  2. Romus

    December 11, 2014 03:06 PM

    Andy Olly could be the next Diekman renovation project for Burris/McClure. Cure the BB issues and could be a good piece for the future Phillies.

    • Brad Engler

      December 11, 2014 03:45 PM

      Only problem is the roster spot. Well, and then actually fixing him.

  3. Eddie

    December 11, 2014 05:38 PM

    Goodbye, Chase.

    No sense in having both Hernandez and Herrera on the bench; they’re the same guy. Suggests to me they expect to deal Utley.

      • Major Malfunction

        December 12, 2014 07:38 AM

        Good find. It would seem some of those guys were good at AAA level, so its good to see he’s leaps and bounds above them right now. Hopefully there’s potential here. Just have to wonder why he was left unprotected.

      • Romus

        December 12, 2014 08:10 AM

        MajMal……one source said it could have been a numbers game in the middle infield with Prof, Sardinas, Alberto, Andrus and Odor being on and limited 40-man space for middle infielders…..then they picked up DeShields in the Rule 5 and put him on their 40-man as an outfielder vs infielder.

      • Romus

        December 12, 2014 08:16 AM

        And he has hit for power down there.
        The pitching may be suspect…..have to see if the overall league batting is up.

    • Chris S.

      December 12, 2014 08:51 AM

      They can’t deal him unless Chase accepts the trade and everything Chase has ever said was that he wanted to finish his career in Philly and I hope he sticks to his word. He is a Hall of Fame caliber player in my mind and I want to see him finish his career right where it started. He and Cole are what kept me interested in even watching the Phillies past April last year.

      • Steve

        December 12, 2014 08:57 PM

        I love Chase. My favorite phillie of the world series group by far. I will be sad if he leaves. That being said, i am a phillies fan, i want them to improve, and if moving him helps them take a step foward, they have to do it and i would support it 100%. This kid can rake AA pitching. As of now galvis is your starting ss and hernandez and herrera and your back up MI although im not sur either can really play SS.

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