Second base-only bats are a rarity. Usually, players that end up at second are guys that couldn’t stick at shortstop or whose clubs didn’t think they’d hit enough to profile in a corner OF spot and so they gave them a shot in the infield and things happened to work out. At least, somewhere along the line there’s been experimenting. That holds true for Chase Utley, Robinson Cano (who actually caught a game in Trenton in 2003) , Jason Kipnis, Ben Zobrist, and on and on. Andrew Pullin is no different. Continue reading…
Pete Orr, much like Michael Martinez, just completed his third year in the Phillies organization. Unlike Martinez, the perception of Orr is that he could be a contributor of something positive; at least, that he could contribute more than Martinez, which shouldn’t be difficult. Like, at all.
Luckily, Orr does have an OPS roughly .100 better than Mini-Mart, but that’s more damning with faint praise than exculpatory. Consider the two players since the start of the 2011 season, when both arrived in Philly, at the Major League level:
Two things here: 1.) Michael Martinez is irreperably terrible and 2.) Orr shouldn’t even make it look that close a comparison. Orr hasn’t hit a home run for the Phillies and has still managed to strike out at a clip above 20 percent in red pinstripes (45 times in 160 PA).
But back to 2013 on its own for a second. Orr did not drive in a run. He was on base six times in 22 PA (.273 OBP), managed to still commit an error in just 35.1 innings in the field because of course he did, and was a non-factor in almost every way. He didn’t drive in a run with any of his four singles – he also only had four PA with men on base – and none of those singles came after the sixth inning despite nine of his 22 PA coming in innings seven on.
It’s a tragedy of small samples, but what’s done is done. You could point to Orr’s .258/.300/.385 line in Lehigh Valley as some sort of saving grace if minors performance is included (something I’m not doing with any of these), but that’s just more faint praise.
It didn’t work, and it hasn’t worked, save for a .472 BABIP-fueled 2012 which still saw Orr strike out in nearly a third of his PA. The rest of the staff is forgiving; I am not.
I think it’s time to bring back the monkfish. A friend of mine, Matt Winkelman, is encountering the wages of writing about minor leaguers for a team-specific blog, which is to say that people are trying to tell him that Maikel Franco is a better prospect than Miguel Sano.
I don’t think that’s literally the dumbest thing you could possibly say on any topic, but it’s up there.
And poor Matty Winks, besieged by stupid people, is in the kind of place that I was in last summer, when I wrote a bunch of stuff telling people what to think and how to act on the internet. Most notably, I made a list of things Phillies fans used to say that made me want to hit them in the face with a fish.
It’s time for the Return of the Monkfish.
None of them was as stupid as saying Maikel Franco is a better prospect than Miguel Sano. Because “Oh they got a big Dominican third baseman, well so do we and that’s the same thing right? Except ours is better because why do you hate the Phillies?” is worthy of The Monkfish.
@Wzeiders: “I you could pluck one Phillies player from the 93 team and place him on next year’s team, who would it be?”
Almost certainly a position player, because the 1993 Phillies had a pretty terrible pitching staff. Which is to say that they had four starters who had pretty good careers, but none of them was all that good that year. Well, three starters who had pretty good careers, plus Tommy Greene, who got Cy Young votes with a 116 ERA+ because man was less evolved back then.
But those Phillies had kind of pedestrian pitching and a bunch of terrible defensive players, but they were on base constantly: three players had OBPs over .400, three more were at .360 or better. I’d probably take Lenny Dykstra, because if you hit .305/.420/.482 with 37 stolen bases, you’re going to score an enormous amount of runs. Dykstra would’ve won the MVP that year if Barry Bonds hadn’t been Barry Bonds. Other acceptable answers: Darren Daulton, who wasn’t as good as Dykstra in 1993, but who represent a bigger improvement over whoever replaces Carlos Ruiz than Dykstra does over Ben Revere, and Dave Hollins, for the same reason except with Cody Asche.