Phillies Prospect Conversation: Jason Parks (Baseball Prospectus)

Leading off our tour of Phillies Prospect coverage is Jason Parks of Baseball Prospectus. Jason became the head of BP’s scouting staff when Kevin Goldstein was absconded away by Jeff Lunhow and his Hugh Grant eyes to join the Houston Astros. Jason is a skilled evaluator with an insatiable appetite for baseball. He enjoys a squeeze of citrus in his water. I can sit here and tell you how good Jason is at his job, how wonderfully realistic his assessments of talent are and how Jason’s content separates itself from the rest of the prospecting world because he’s simply the best and most unique pure writer of words we have. But perhaps the most ringing endorsement I can give Jason’s work is this: Whenever someone approaches me about how they can get into scouting and what they need to look for when evaluating talent, I refer them to Jason’s chapters in Baseball Prospectus’ 2012 book, Extra Innings. I can’t do better than those chapters so I won’t try.

I know an overwhelming number of our readers here probably already have subscriptions to BP. If you don’t, you need to head on over there and snatch one up. Even if you’re not sabermetrically inclined, the prospect coverage alone is already worth the small fee and is going to evolve into the most comprehensive public scouting database on Earth when the 2013 season starts. More on that in a bit. For now, enjoy my hour long talk with Jason which I transcribed to the best of my ability. Keep an eye out for my notes and links throughout.

Eric (via text)- I’ll call you in 15 minutes if that’s okay

Jason (via text)- I’m waiting in line for coffee, should be home in 15 minutes. Perfect.

15 minutes, 37 seconds later

(phone ringing)

Jason– Hello?

(Jason and I engage in 20 seconds of small talk neither of us is particularly comfortable with)

Eric– Alright, let’s get into this. Why don’t you start by telling everyone about your new job and how it’s going?

Jason– It’s good. Different. Kevin’s (Goldstein) level of success gave me all sorts of freedom when he was still around. Our prospect coverage complimented one another and his presence gave me all sorts of freedom to write things like….faux fiction. Now there’s more structure to what I’m doing. I knew the direction I wanted to take things right away. I wanted to bring in more eyes and run things like an actual scouting department. (Eric’s note: He has. Several writers/evaluators across the country have joined BP to cover the minors this season. I’m curious to know what the output’s format will be for all this scouting data but it will certainly be exhaustive and ground breaking)

Eric– What does the Top 10 process entail?

Jason– I make a preliminary sketch of the top guys in the system and then make a list of guys I know within the industry who have coverage of that team. I make calls and work that information into the list. Then I’ll ask for contributions from the BP team about the top ten and ask for suggestions on players we think will get to the majors this year, or who might have a breakout season. I want as many sources as possible.

Eric– I want your thoughts on the Phillies philosophy on acquiring amateur talent. I know in the past you’ve said you really like what they do, but since then your writing has indicated a change in your stance on the pure, raw tool athletes the Phillies lust for every June.

Jason– My views have….refined on the Phillies tool heavy approach. It’s not that I’m no longer a fan of toolsy freak guys, I’m just no longer a fan of guys who don’t know how the hell to play baseball. I’ve given up on teaching the freak athlete how to play baseball because those guys just don’t develop. You have to see feel and instincts. If those things are lacking, the kid won’t bear fruit. I’m all for big tools as long as they show an aptitude for playing baseball as well.

Eric– One thing I find fascinating is an entire farm system’s worth of talent has been exported over the last half decade or so (since the Blanton trade) and nobody has made the Phillies regret trading them yet. Do you have thoughts on a cause to this or is this just some random stroke of luck?

Jason– Let me start by saying that no teams want kids they trade to fail. You draft and develop a relationship with these kids. You don’t send him away and hope he burns out or gets hurt. Sure, teams want to “win” these trades, whatever that means, but not at the expense of someone’s job or career. I think that gets lost on blogs. To answer your question, one reason things may have worked out like this is because teams are supposed to know their system better than anyone else. Only teams that see a prospect come to work every day can claim that his makeup is a known commodity. Makeup (Eric’s note: the definition of makeup throughout baseball is not uniform. Some will tell you lack of faith in a god is a sign of poor makeup, others couldn’t care less what you do at home as long as you strive to get better at baseball. Jason skews toward the latter) is an underrated part of this whole process and when you have a handle on that and other teams don’t, you have the upper hand. That’s not to say all prospects are traded because they have poor makeup. This thing with the Phillies is probably mostly luck, but the internal evaluation process is something to consider as well.

Eric– The one guy who was considered untouchable throughout that whole exile was Domonic Brown. This was a guy who (I proceed to crush on Domonic Brown) and no longer looks like that player. I’d like to know why.

Jason– I would also like to know why. People need to realize that the jump from Triple-A to the Major Leagues is insane. The level of competition is far and above what you see in Triple-A. You’re suddenly playing against much better players in bigger stadiums in front of many more people. Then, once you succeed at the major league level, your competition is going to adjust. Then you have to adjust. And then they’ll make more adjustments. This cycle continues for the rest of your career and some guys just can’t do that. This isn’t something you can simulate in the minor leagues. I don’t know why Brown hasn’t lived up to the lofty expectations yet but that might be part of it. Others believe he still has a chance to be special. He is still quite young and I know teams were trying to get him thrown in to deals this winter in an effort to buy low.

Eric– I know in today’s online world we like to place the blame on something or someone, so is it fair to say that Brown hasn’t gotten to where we thought he would because of some combination of everything people have pointed to? All the stuff you mentioned, injuries, mishandling, luck, swing changes…?


Eric– Ok, let’s get into your list itself

(Eric’s note: Baseball Prospectus’ Top 10 Phillies Prospects

1.        Jesse Biddle

2.        Maikel Franco

3.        Adam Morgan

4.        Roman Quinn

5.        Tommy Joseph

6.        Ethan Martin

7.        Cody Asche

8.        John Pettibone

9.        Carlos Tocci

10.        Shane Watson)

and talk about Jesse Biddle, who’ll likely be the number one guy on everyone’s list this year. Give me your assessment of Biddle and touch on the strange fluctuations in velocity he tends to suffer from. Is that an incedental side effect of his development from a once a week high school pitcher in the short scheduled Northeast to a full time ballplayer? Or is that something we should be concerned about long term?

Jason– Biddle certainly isn’t your ideal type of #1 prospect and he does have a lot of warts on him already. As far as the velo concerns go, I think saying it’s due to growing pains is a convenient excuse. I’m not sure it’s okay to think that after Biddle has been in pro ball this long. His delivery is clean, but whatever relationship he has with the ball, his explosiveness and intensity, is lost at times. Once he completely grows into his body, maybe it’ll stick. If he can pitch at 90-93mph or maybe a little lower if he can learn to manipulate the ball and add movement, I think it’ll work at the Major League level. He’s got a mid-rotation ceiling. Not sexy.

Eric– Talk me through why Maikel Franco is so high on your list.

Jason– He has crazy bat speed. His hands are explosive. The reports I got on him were better than he looked when I saw him. For instance, I don’t think he sticks at third base. He’s too thick and slow in the lower half to confidently project at third. Maybe right field is an option since you’d hate to waste the arm at first. People outside the Phillies organization would like to see him move behind the plate. That’s a difficult move for anyone to make at this stage in the game, especially when you also want this guy to be a high end hitter. There’s just not enough time to work on all that stuff. Franco plays too fast at times. He needs to slow down. He loves to swing, the approach needs some serious work.

Eric– Do you think coaches can deploy developmental tools to help him improve his approach or is that just something some players have and others do not?

Jason– I think a coach can aid development with the approach but can’t assist with pitch recognition, which I think is an inherent thing that seriously influences the quality of one’s approach.

Eric– You’ve got Adam Morgan next on your list. I’m quite taken by him. Do you think he sustains the success he found last season?

Jason– Something concerns me about Morgan and slider pitchers in general. (Eric’s note: I am of the mind that Morgan’s best secondary pitch is his changeup, not his slider. I am in the minority on this) Bad sliders are home run pitches. If Morgan’s fastball isn’t working for him, if he’s not locating it or it doesn’t quite have the juice it needs, he becomes over reliant on his slider. His changeup comes and goes.

Eric– I actually like the changeup better. Wouldn’t hesitate putting a 6 on it in each of the times I saw him. I’ve kicked around the idea of doing a list myself and am not sure how high I’m going to stick Morgan. Could go as high as #2.

Jason– Well then let me ask you this. Based on what we both think about Biddle and the pitcher he is and the pitcher he might become and what you’ve just told me you think about Morgan, why couldn’t you go and put Morgan at #1?

Eric– Well, (redacted because I don’t want to give away my rankings) and….I know I shouldn’t care about this but I do…I don’t want people to think I did it just to be different. I know I should just evaluate the player, have an objective opinion about him and that’s it, but I know if I see something fishy on someone else’s list, I tend to wonder if they did what they did primarily for attention. I don’t want that to happen.

Jason– Sure, but you could justify it. There’s enough evidence and room for subjectivity for you to stick Morgan at #1 in a bad system and totally justify it. Now, if someone put Roman Quinn at the top of their list, then THAT would be someone I’d point at and say, “this person wants attention.”

Eric– Good, I’m glad you brought him up because we need to talk about him and an overarching issue the public seems to have with overvaluing speed. Do you think we see speed, that tangible, sexy tool, and forget about more important aspects of a player’s profile? Especially in a system like this where plus-plus tools are in short supply, do we see an 80 tool and fall in love even though the rest of the player isn’t all that good?

Jason– Speed clouds judgment. Having a catalytic tool like speed causes people to think you’re going to do the things you’re doing now all the way up through the major leagues. The ways he gets on base, the way he gets extra base hits….those sorts of opportunities don’t come around very often in the Majors. Sure, he’ll put pressure on infielders, but what MLB infielder is used to fielding a ball cleanly and throwing out fast guys at first base? How often do big league outfielders misplay a ball so badly that even the fastest of runners can stretch a double? It doesn’t happen. This is the fastest player in baseball not named Billy Hamilton and I don’t think it’s going to matter. I was one of the few that didn’t buy into Dee Gordon. Sure he’s a total burner and he’s good enough to play shortstop, but you have to hit. You have to have the strength to hit and control a baseball bat. Quinn is going to have to develop that strength and that’s a really hard thing to do.

Eric– What about the defense, do you think he sticks at short?

Jason– If they’re in A-ball and you’re questioning the defense already, they’re probably going to have to move. His hands and actions need serious improvement if he wants to stay at short.

Eric– Let’s discuss guys that are a long ways away. Gabriel Lino (Eric’s notes: acquired for Jim Thome this past season). Any chance the bat develops enough for him to be a backup? I know the tools are loud.

Jason– Yeah…it’s not gonna work. Lino is big and strong. The build is strong. He has impressive catch and throw skills and the raw pop is awesome, but you only see it at 5 o’clock. He needs to hit. I just don’t think he’s going to.

Eric– Andrew Pullin, go.

Jason– Ah yes, when I started making calls Pullin’s name started popping up. He’s sort of a weird guy. The bat is interesting but his entire status as a prospect totally depends on whether he can successfully convert to second base. There’s not enough bat for a corner outfield spot. Watch for the defense, it’s key.

Eric– I guess we sorta need to talk about Darin Ruf. When he had that August and interest in him really exploded, it seemed questions were directed at everyone but you. I want your thoughts on Ruf.

Jason– I understand the excitement. We’ve seen it before when a guy who’s just an org guy or a four-A guy has a stretch where he just goes apeshit. People assume that because this guy is doing this at Double-A that he’s close enough to the majors that it’ll translate and he’s just going to keep mashing. You can’t Ruf has a ton of raw strength, just bull, country, lift balls out all over the place strength….but it’s just not gonna happen at the big league level. We had some discussion amongst the scouting staff at BP about putting him in the back half of our top 10 because some think he’s a platoon bat. There’s value in a platoon bat and some argued that value and, more importantly, the certainty of that value compared to the high risk involved with the young players we ended up with at #9 and #10 meant we should include Ruf. I’ve dealt with l angry comments because we didn’t.

Eric– Let’s do some rapid fire, one sentence evals. Dylan Cozens.

Jason– Got some love. Was a candidate to be in our “on the Rise” section.

Eric– Jake Diekman?

Jason– Got some love there, too. If he can command that plus-plus velocity then he can pitch in more than just a specialist role. Righties do pick it up early though because the arm slot is so low.

Eric- Larry Greene?

Jason– I’m not a fan of the bat speed. I’ve had some say he has slider bat speed. He’s a first -base-only guy.

Eric– Kelly Dugan

Jason– No love

I then thanked Jason for spending over an hour on the phone with me, we talked for five more minutes and then I went to play darts with my future brother-in-law. Up next in our prospect conversations series: Baseball America’s Jim Callis.

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  1. Ryan

    January 16, 2013 09:26 PM

    He sure paints a pretty bleak picture of our system!

  2. LTG

    January 16, 2013 11:33 PM

    The comments about Quinn are interesting. Mike Newman seems to think that Quinn shows the potential to develop a decent enough bat to play in MLB. Indeed, Newman thinks Quinn is a better version of Billy Hamilton. I couldn’t quite tell whether Jason thinks Quinn won’t develop his bat or he is just non-committal on the issue. Do you have any insight into Jason’s response? Any insight on Quinn’s bat you are willing to share otherwise?

  3. Pat

    January 16, 2013 11:48 PM

    Really looking forward to this series…

    Question on Biddle’s velo: I was under the impression he was 90-93 at Clearwater. Is this not the case?

    Expanding that a little, I find it very hard to get accurate velocity reports on our prospects. Is there an online source you recommend that’s accurate?

  4. Eric Longenhagen

    January 17, 2013 12:18 AM

    Jason was not enthused. He knows Quinn has first-division upside, but doesn’t seem to like his chances of getting there.

    Biddle mostly pitches in that range but will have stretches where he’s 87-90mph or worse. It’s cool that you asked about finding prospect velos because part of BP’s scouting initiative for 2013 is to have their scouts report pitcher velos so they can be posted on BP’s site. That’s where you can find that info starting this season.

  5. MattWinks

    January 17, 2013 12:45 AM

    Not very positive, I am slightly disappointed you didn’t record it in podcast form

  6. LTG

    January 17, 2013 09:48 AM

    Got it. Thanks! If this entry is an indicator, this series will be fantastic.

  7. Robin

    January 17, 2013 10:01 AM

    Biddle’s velocity is not a concern. He was told by the organization after being drafted to work on his control as a priority. Last year, as his control improved, his velocity started to tick upwards again. Some guys do peak with their velocity in high school. Biddle’s situation is by design, not decline.

  8. LTG

    January 17, 2013 10:07 AM


    As I understood the interview, the problem is not that Biddle’s velocity is declining already but rather that his velocity comes and goes. When he has it, it is good, topping out in the mid-90s. But sometimes he just doesn’t have it. That the velocity comes and goes might be explainable in terms of working on control, but it might not. I imagine the scouts take that into account when drawing their conclusions. Am I getting this right, Eric? Or did I misunderstand?

  9. Pat

    January 17, 2013 11:56 AM

    Thanks, Eric. I’ll look for that next year on BP.

  10. Phillie697

    January 17, 2013 12:32 PM

    He paints a bleak picture of our system because it IS bleak.

    I don’t think he gives Quinn enough credit for the plate discipline he’s shown so far. If Quinn can consistently keep his BB % around 10% (I know, a BIG if), he doesn’t need to hit all that much more to have good value. A walk that turn into a triple is the same thing as a single that turns into a triple. But then again, he did rate him at #4, so obviously he’s giving him credit for something.

    Surprised no one has commented on his evaluation of Ruf, LOL. Denial perhaps? 😛

  11. LTG

    January 17, 2013 02:30 PM

    “Surprised no one has commented on his evaluation of Ruf, LOL.”

    That argument has to be played out by now, right?

  12. Eric Longenhagen

    January 17, 2013 02:33 PM

    I don’t like when pitchers sacrifice velo for the sake of command. We’ll know more this year when Biddle gets to Double-A and I can see him a dozen times.

    I’m really excited to get multiple takes on Quinn from everyone. Seems like he’ll be the most polarizing guy of the bunch.

  13. Robin

    January 17, 2013 05:11 PM

    I am ambivalent about sacrificing velocity, but can understand the org’s concern about developing him slowly and carefully given how young and raw he was when he started pitching professionally. (FWIW, my HS pitcher son worked on control first when his body changed and now is throwing much harder, so I can see the logic.)

    if you see Jesse pitch early, keep in mind that he ALWAYS starts the year slowly. Even in his senior of high school this was a problem, causing considerable angst about his draft position for a few weeks. I’d be surprised if his walk rate ticks up for a month or so.

  14. Robin

    January 17, 2013 05:12 PM

    Sorry, I’d be surprised if it his walk rate DOESN’T tick up for a month or so.

  15. Phillie697

    January 17, 2013 06:44 PM


    Well I’m a big on-base guy. If you have a good OBP, I’m always going to think you’re at least somewhat useful, regardless of anything else. Probably a somewhat flawed thinking, depending on the team we’re talking about, but I’m always going to be partial to guys who can get on base, and knock anyone who can’t, even if they can ISO their way to Mike Stanton territory.

    I mean, if you can get on base, you are consuming less outs, and you give the rest of your teammates more opportunity to do their thing. Like I said, analysis probably should be more nuanced than that, and I certainly don’t do any scouting nor have a Bill James like understanding of sabermetrics, but in my puny little brain, that just sounds logical 🙂


    When has beating a dead horse been a problem for people who comment on this blog? 🙂

  16. Scott G

    January 17, 2013 07:44 PM

    I’m sure you guys have some tie to fangraphs. Someone should tell them there’s a fatal flaw on their site…

    Aramis Ramirez’s career wOBA = .361
    Aramis Ramirez’s career wOBA vs LH/RH = 0.388/0.361…

    He’s got over 1200 PA vs LH and over 4000 against RH.

    Not a fatal flaw, but seriously, someone should tell them.

  17. Scott G

    January 17, 2013 08:33 PM

    Woof. That seems like a lot of math for right now. I follow the simple batting average example that the wikipedia page shows, but I checked Ryan Howard’s numbers, and his career .381 wOBA worked out perfectly with his
    1200 PA vs. LH with .320 wOBA and his 2600 PA vs RH with .413 wOBA.


  18. jauer

    January 17, 2013 09:24 PM

    I’m not sure the Simpson’s Paradox would apply to different years of the same player. If his career wOBA against all pitchers is .361, and his career wOBA against all RHPs is also .361, then how can LHP be .388?

  19. LTG

    January 17, 2013 10:23 PM

    I think the Simpson Paradox applies only because the linear weights vary from year to year. If the explanation works (and I’m not sure it does) 1. and 2. have to work together.

    Also, the Simpson Paradox is not a paradox.

  20. Ryan Sommers

    January 17, 2013 11:26 PM

    Phillie697 — There is no bigger fan of good OBP skills than I, but I think it’s important to remember this:

    In the majors, where pitchers, at an absolute minimum, have serviceable control, OBP and contact/power are not independent. If you don’t have the strength to consistently hit line drives and get extra bases, as it’s speculated that Quinn does not, pitchers are not going to give you the sort of sequencing that is conducive to drawing walks. They’re not going to pitch around you; they’re going to challenge you by flooding the strike zone, knowing that you’re unlikely to do anything with it. So if Quinn can’t mitigate that by proving he is a threat to drive a pitch in the strike zone, his OBP is going to rapidly deflate once he’s in the bigs.

  21. Scott G

    January 18, 2013 06:30 AM

    Looks like my work will have to wait then because I want to figure this out.. I just find it shocking that Ryan Howard’s very polar splits over a significant time span worked out very nicely with simple weighted averages against lhp/rhp.

  22. Avi

    January 18, 2013 08:58 AM

    You wonder: How rare is it for a player with negligible power to maintain a high OBP at the major league level?

    (You didn’t wonder, but humor me.)

    Out of dumb curiosity I decided to run a Play Index season search with the following filters:

    More than 502 ABs
    OBP > .350
    ISO < .100

    Arbitrary terms, I know…but whatever, I like round numbers.

    Last year, Jon Jay was the only MLB player to check all three boxes.

    In most years it seems the class of players fitting all three criteria is somewhere between two and six.

    Serial offenders include: Chone Figgins, David Eckstein, Ichiro, Jason Kendall, Luis Castillo, Omar Vizquel aaaaaand Juan Pierre (!).

    Moral of the story: It's a select group of guys. Since 2000, there have only been 55 such seasons (average of about 4 a year). It'd be pretty hard for R. Quinn to be an elite on base guy in the bigs without developing 10 HR+ pop. Not saying he needs to reach that threshold to be successful–just a dumb gauge that helps communicate the broader point.

    (BTW…if you drop the OBP entry point to .325 you get seven players from 2012 that fit the bill: Jay, Elvis Andrus, Marco Scutaro, Alcides Escobar, Jamey Carroll, Rafael Furcal and our own Ben Revere. No surprise that all of those guys play or can play premium defensive positions. Andrus had the highest WAR of the bunch at 3.5.)

  23. Scott G

    January 18, 2013 09:00 AM


    I went to check the fangraphs numbers with the weights from the guts page, and the wOBAs I calculated were ~.002 less for my calculations then fangraphs showed for LHP, RHP, and the total wOBA for 2012. Any reason you think this might be?

  24. dkappelman

    January 18, 2013 09:49 AM

    Scott G, the “career” splits are 2002+, this should probably be clarified, or starred or something, (I’ll get on that) but that is why it doesn’t quite match up with his actual career wOBA.

  25. dkappelman

    January 18, 2013 09:56 AM

    Also, for the .002 difference, what are you using in the denominator? It should be AB + HBP + BB – IBB + SF. Also, on the guts page we round to the nearest third decimal, though I don’t think that should make anything off by .002. And make sure you are not using the SB/CS weights, because those are only used in wSB currently.

  26. Scott G

    January 18, 2013 11:35 AM

    I was using PA in the denominator. That’s what it shows on the fangraphs glossary page for wOBA. I now recall having seen this other denominator though.

    Also, I used the SB and CS weight, but they shouldn’t matter much since he has 0 attempts in most seasons. Should I be using .25 for SB and -.500 for CS?

    Thanks for the time

  27. Phillie697

    January 18, 2013 12:01 PM


    I’m also a fan of believing someone can do something if there is some evidence to support it until it is proven that he can’t. It’s the reason why I’m still on the Dom Express bandwagon.


    Agreed. Hence I’m not saying his bat doesn’t need to develop. I just don’t think it has to develop THAT much. I mean, there are plenty of people out there who holds the belief that plate discipline isn’t something you can really teach. So if you see a kid who shows good plate discipline at such a young age, I rather feel hopeful about him picking up the rest of the stuff from his mentors. What’s that old baseball analogy? Two players, one has perfect form, the other lousy form, but they both perform the same, who do you take?

    With all that said, yes, there is probably more than a little irrationality in my opinion and optimism. Saying this kid will be good in the majors is a lot like saying my unborn son is going to be Einstein. So… Yeah… Don’t rely on anything I’ve said, LOL.

  28. Phillie697

    January 18, 2013 12:05 PM


    I wanted to go and do the same thing but instead of using OBP, I want to use BB %. Alas, Play Index doesn’t do BB % >.<

  29. Scott G

    January 18, 2013 12:14 PM

    Now I’m getting a “career” (2002-present) wOBA = .349 which is even worse now than his career .361 OBP on his player page and .361 and .388 on his career splits page.

    I used every year’s weights and came out with his split wOBAs for each season. They matched fangraphs wOBAs.

    I then multiplied each seasons split wOBA by (AB+HBP+BB-IBB+SF) (also by splits), and added these up and divided by his total AB+HBP+BB-IBB+SF over the 2002-2012 seasons.

  30. Scott G

    January 18, 2013 12:15 PM


    I’m sorry to be commenting here about completely unrelated topics. I did really enjoy the post though if that helps.

  31. joecatz

    January 19, 2013 03:53 PM

    One thing I find fascinating is an entire farm system’s worth of talent has been exported over the last half decade or so (since the Blanton trade) and nobody has made the Phillies regret trading them yet. Do you have thoughts on a cause to this or is this just some random stroke of luck?

    I looked at this over at the GoodPhight this offseason and I came to a pretty interesting conclusion. Name a player who was at AA or higher at the time of a trade (by Ruben) that we even remotely regret the deal. Its hard to do because there arent hardly any.

    For me, the only two players who i have a huge regret for are Singleton and Santana and they were both at A ball or lower.

    What I believe to be truth is that Ruben and his development guys know enough about the Drabeks and the Carrascos and the trevor mays of the system to be able to know their ceilings enough to build them up in deals.

    the regrets are when they deal a lower level high ceiling guy like Singleton. Make sense?

  32. phillychuck

    January 20, 2013 05:51 PM

    I regret D’Arnaud more than Santana as of today.

    The Carassco/Donald/Marson/Knapp trade for Lee was the Indians rolling snake eyes four consecutive times.

    Both pitchers get injured, Donald tops out as a utility guy, and Marson a backup C. Any one of those guys could have turned that trade the other way. Wonder how Carassco pitches this year after TJ?

  33. Philli697

    January 21, 2013 04:43 AM

    Often, I find that when one tries to explain luck, that’s when said person makes the least sense.

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