Jayson Werth Deserves Philadelphia’s Respect

Apparently, Jayson Werth is still a lightning rod for controversy in the city of Philadelphia. Hearken back to the days of yore when former GM Pat Gillick signed him as a free agent before the 2007 season. Werth transformed from a garbage bin pick-up to a mega-millionaire, leading his team to one championship and one failed World Series bid, and secured the right field position at a very cost-efficient price. Werth clashed at times with members of the media for not being the best interview (Chase Utley is deeply despised by the Phillies’ beat writers for the same reason), but was everything the Phillies could have asked of him and much, much more.

Let’s go back to the beginning of the saga, which I will quote from the 38th installment (page 97) in my book “100 Things Phillies Fans Should Know and Do Before They Die“:

With the [Los Angeles Dodgers], Werth was expected to blossom, but his career was nearly ended when A.J. Burnett hit him with a fastball during a spring training game on March 2, 2005. Werth didn’t return until late May, but his power was gone. He hit just seven home runs in 395 plate appearances and slugged a paltry .374. The wrist problems persisted, causing him to miss the entire 2006 season.

Werth says he saw many doctors, but none could properly diagnose his wrist problem. “No matter who I saw for my wrist, it was always the same old thing: As long as you can tolerate it, you can play,” he said.

Fate very well may have intervened when Werth went home to Springfield, Illinois. He ran into a friend of the family, an orthopedist. Werth detailed his wrist injury and was quickly referred to the Mayo Clinic. There, his wrist injury was properly diagnosed as a split tear of the ulnotriquetral ligament. Werth had surgery, then made his way into free agency.

From there, the rest is history. Werth finished the ’07 season with a .385 wOBA, the fifth-highest among all right fielders. His offense was a big reason why the Phillies, as a team, led the league in on-base percentage and slugging percentage. Werth was also crucial to the Phillies trampling the New York Mets in the waning days of the regular season, snapping a 14-year playoff drought.

In 2008, Werth shared right field with Jenkins again, but it became obvious that the right-hander’s bat needed to be in the lineup every day. At the end of the regular season, Werth had a .382 wOBA and stole 20 bases in 21 attempts while playing solid defense in right. As the Phillies cut through post-season competition like a hot knife through butter en route to their first World Series championship since 1980, Werth was always dependable, finishing the playoffs with a .969 OPS in 14 games.

Prior to the start of the 2009 season, Werth and the Phillies avoided arbitration, agreeing to a two-year, $10 million extension. It turned out to be arguably the best contract the Phillies have ever signed as Werth’s 09-10 seasons were incredibly productive. Werth hit a career-high 36 home runs and drove in a career-best 99 runs while his wOBA stayed constant at .382. He continued to add value with aggressive-but-efficient base running and solid defense in right field. The Phillies returned to the World Series only to be pushed out by the New York Yankees in six games. It wasn’t Werth’s fault, though, as he posted a 1.129 OPS in 15 post-season games.

As 2010 approached, it became obvious that the Phillies were going to have to pay Werth like a superstar or face losing him to another team. Werth didn’t budge on his contract demands, and the Phillies remained steadfast in avoiding another big contract, having to that point awarded $125 million over five years to Ryan Howard and $60 million over three years to Roy Halladay. With top prospect Domonic Brown waiting in the wings, GM Ruben Amaro felt that losing Werth wasn’t the end of the world. Meanwhile, as the rumors swirled around Werth throughout the 2010 regular season, he put up the best numbers of his career including a .397 wOBA and a league-leading 46 doubles. The Phillies reached the post-season for the fourth year in a row — and the fourth year in a row with Werth on the roster — only to be booted out of the NLCS by the San Francisco Giants in six games.

The Phillies waved goodbye to Werth as he went out into the marketplace. On December 6, 2010, Werth and the Nationals agreed to a seven-year, $126 million contract. It was a statement by the Washington Nationals that they were very serious about becoming contenders in the NL East, with uber prospect Stephen Strasburg — taken #1 overall in the 2009 draft — on the horizon. The Nats would later draft another uber prospect in Bryce Harper, the #1 overall pick in the 2010 draft. During the 2011 regular season, the Phillies utilized a combination of Ben Francisco and Domonic Brown in right field before trading for Hunter Pence at the end of July. Meanwhile, Werth was having an awful first year in Washington. Everything that made him successful in Philadelphia disappeared when he went south on I-95: his batting average dropped to .232, his on-base percentage to .330, and his slugging percentage to .389. After posting an aggregate 130 OPS+ in four years with the Phillies, his first year with the Nats ended with a 97 OPS+.

Werth rebounded this season in a big way. Although he missed time between May and August due to another wrist injury — coincidentally suffered in a game against the Phillies — his production is back up to pre-2011 levels, and just for good measure, his strikeout rate is significantly down as well. Best of all for the Nationals, he is looking as if he will return at least some value for his monstrous seven-year contract and the Nats are going to the post-season for the first time in team history, and for the first time since 1981 in franchise history.

Why do I bring all of this up? Because for some reason, despite his significance to the team between 2007-10, Phillies fans are mad at Werth. It isn’t exactly new, either. When Werth suffered his wrist injury, he was jeered — in Washington — by Phillies fans as he walked off:

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A particular Philadelphia sports blog encouraged the mistreatment of Werth.

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(Nats fans on Twitter that night confirmed that my conjecture was correct.)

UPDATE: Adding this in here:

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Talking about the incident later, Werth remarked, “I am motivated to get back quickly and see to it personally those people never walk down Broad Street in celebration again.” Once again, this rankled Phillies fans for some reason. Gee, I wonder why Werth would say such a thing.

Fast forward to last night. The Nats have already clinched at least a playoff appearance and likely the NL East crown while the Phillies are on the brink of mathematical elimination, but the two teams are finishing the second game of a three-game series in Philadelphia before three more in Washington to close out the season. During the game, Werth was involved in another incident that drew the ire of Phillies fans.

[...] it appeared as if the Nats’ rightfielder faked tossing a foul ball into the crowd to a group of kids before tossing it aside into the dugout.

[...] “Earlier in the game I flipped a ball into the seats to a fan and it flipped off her hand and landed on someone else’s lap. Then a guy reached over — a Phillies fan — and grabbed the ball off her lap and threw it back onto the field,” Werth explained.

“In the ninth I was going to flip the ball to a group of kids and behind them was all these unruly, middle-aged men who to me appeared to be snarling. It’s the ninth, so who knows. I got the sense that maybe they were intoxicated. I was going to flip it to the kids and then thought maybe not because of the group behind the little innocent children there, remembering what happened earlier in right field.”

The Phillies had battled back late to close the Nats’ lead to one run at 5-4 entering the ninth. Werth came up with runners on first and third with two outs. As Werth worked the count to 2-2 against Justin De Fratus, catcher Kurt Suzuki stole second base, putting both runners in scoring position. On the fifth pitch, Werth drove a single up the middle, plating both runs. The former Phillies right fielder clapped his hands in excitement rounding the first base bag.

This morning, I was perusing Twitter, as I usually do, only to see friend of the blog and WIP’s Spike Eskin (@SpikeEskin) trying to talk sense into hordes of angry Phillies fans. The anger ranged from the purely emotional to emotional rationalizations.

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I write all of this because I don’t get it. The Werth hate makes absolutely no sense. At least with the Rollins hate that went on earlier this season, there was some small sliver of rationality. Why does a city hate a player who came from nothing and blossomed into an incredibly productive player at a cost under $13 million? To put that in perspective, Werth put up 15 WAR as a Phillie according to Baseball Reference. Roughly $5 million will net you one win above replacement, so Werth’s 15 WAR was worth about $75 million. In other words, the Phillies got about six times the return on their investment in Werth. He led the Phillies to four consecutive playoff appearances, including one championship and another World Series appearance. He became the third-most-efficient base stealer of all time under the tutelage of Davey Lopes.

He left Philadelphia because he could make more money somewhere else, and who can blame him? The Phillies had overspent in other areas, leaving themselves unable to justify matching the market price for Werth. Did Phillies fans expect him to take a significant pay cut, as if playing in Philadelphia is the only city in baseball where the sky is blue and grass is green? When he lashed out at the Phillies fans who cheered his injury, did they expect him to laugh and say, “ha, those grown men wishing physical harm on me? That’s hilarious”?

Werth has handled all of the mistreatment and adversity with aplomb. He never lashed out at the selfish writers who besmirched his name for being an introvert. He did not address the Phillies fans who labeled him a selfish money-chaser. It was only after suffering a frightening and potentially career-ending injury to the glee of a pocket of Phillies fans at Nationals Park did he show the slightest hint of frustration — completely justified frustration, I might add.

Phillies fans get a bad rap around the country for uncouth behavior. Most of it is unwarranted as a few bad apples shouldn’t spoil the bunch, and the intermittent bad behavior that does occur is not unique to Philadelphia. Even the batteries thrown at J.D. Drew isn’t a behavior that only Philadelphians exhibit — a fan in Oakland threw a cell phone from the second deck that hit Carl Everett back in 2003, for instance. On this issue, though, Phillies fans are simply wrong and grossly humiliating themselves on the national stage. I get that “fan” is derived from “fanatic” — “a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal” — but that doesn’t justify treating an integral part of the greatest era of Phillies baseball in 130 years as less than human. Any fans that continue to harbor ill will towards Werth are an embarrassment to those of us who call ourselves Phillies fans and to the city of Philadelphia.

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  1. Tim

    September 27, 2012 10:17 AM

    Ugh, I was at the game last night with my brother, and the treatment of Werth was embarrassing. I do not for the life of me understand how he has become a villain. He gave us his best years, and when he left as a free agent, he stated explicitly that he had hoped to stay here. I get that fans pay their money and have a right to boo, and the pseudo-tribalism of sports and all that, which makes it all kind of fun, usually. But it’s not like he unloaded on the team or the fans as he went out the door like Billy Wagner or something.

    When he came up at that critical point in the ninth, my brother and I looked at each other while the boos rained down on him, and we were both thinking the same thing. Yeah, we wanted the Phillies to win the game most of all, but part of us was hoping Werth would slam a three-run homer to shut those yahoos up.

  2. Frank

    September 27, 2012 10:24 AM

    I suggested Werth could be on the Wall of Fame someday and people were outraged. People will get over Werth. The guy went to the enemy so it’s fun to rag on him, but some are just way over the top.

  3. Sean

    September 27, 2012 10:29 AM

    As a Nationals fan, I appreciate your rationality on the subject. Wishing injury on a player is a classless move, but one that members of any fanbase are guilty of.

    The booing I have no problem with – Werth is a huge troll (which I find hilarious, but I’m sure opposing fans don’t). He lives to get under peoples’ skin and I’m sure was feasting off of the negative reaction he got from Philly fans last night.

  4. Bryce

    September 27, 2012 10:55 AM

    I love worth. And I don’t hate that he went to Washington. I understand that this is what Phillies fans do to someone that screwed them over but he didn’t. He got an offer he couldn’t refuse and took it. The Phillies didn’t try to keep him. That’s not his fault. Oh, and if anyone here says he shouldn’t have taken it, the next time someone offers you 120+ million, look me in the eyes and tell me you’d say no. Then I’ll call you a liar.

  5. tomg

    September 27, 2012 11:03 AM

    Yeah, I just don’t get the virulence of this Werth-hatred. My own 12-year-old son (who barely remembers the ’09 season and didn’t care about baseball at all in ’08) shows signs of it; and I try to explain to him what a great asset Werth was to our team every year we had him; that this was especially gratifying because he was a reclamation project after his first wrist injury; and that even (mostly) beloved Charlie Manuel had told Werth to go for the most money when Werth’s free agency came – in fact, said he’d be disappointed in Werth if he didn’t get as much as he could.

    I understand that you’re gonna boo those guys you think might hurt your team: fear-based boos make total sense to me.

    But when Phillie fans actively cheered Werth’s pain after he broke his wrist trying to make a great catch, I was just stunned at the utter inhumanity of it; and I fully understood his anger, his vow to personally see to it that those fans never see another Phillies championship.

    If this world were a just place, that incident, that cruel treatment of a truly great player, would be our Bambino’s curse, our billygoat. I love our Phils, and I hope it does not become that, but what those fans did to Werth that night is (even though I can’t quite prove it with advanced sabermetrics) objectively worse than anything Boston did to the Babe or Chicago did to a billygoat. (I refer here exclusively to any PG-or-lower offenses Chicagoans may have committed with billygoats, consenting or not, because who knows just how “friendly” the friendly confines gets with barnyard animals? I’ve heard some things.)

    I think you’re right that they were just a few bad apples. But I don’t take much comfort in that fact. It just seems to reflect badly on us all, somehow.

  6. Zudok

    September 27, 2012 11:45 AM

    I will submit that (most) true fans of the Phillies and of the game are not booing Jayson Werth. Everybody loves a winner and the record attendance at CBP has been composed of more a few fans who’ve been swept up and in by the team’s recent success. Quite simply, they lack perspective. A night at the ballpark has become as much an event as a ballgame. These are the guys going for another round of Bud Light in the middle of an inning. They paid for the ticket so they’ve got rights. But they aren’t us.

  7. hk

    September 27, 2012 11:46 AM

    I don’t get the Werth hate either, but I don’t think that most Phillies fans (or the franchise as a whole) deserve to suffer any curses just because a few bad apples jeered him when he got hurt.

  8. Chris G

    September 27, 2012 11:52 AM

    That walk-off against the Nationals at the end of the 2010 season is one of my favorite moments ever.

  9. kevin in DC

    September 27, 2012 12:01 PM

    Great article and comments. The 9th inning was fun to watch last night. I don’t find anything wrong with the boos and jeers. That’s good, clean fun. Werth appears to thrive on it, and I would expect no less from Phillies fans. The problem is when the boos and jeers turn to hatred and vitriol. I think Werth was just bantering with the fans in his own way. I mean the place was dead prior to the “incident”. And you gotta respect that he got a base hit in that situation. That’s when you tip your hat and boo him again next time.

  10. mratfink

    September 27, 2012 12:03 PM

    i don’t know if i can explain it either but i’ve seen my dad react the same way. The only reasoning i can explain is that a lot of fans get their local news from daily news live or wip or the papers and those sources may have covered the whole Werth saying “i will make sure they never walk down Broad again” without the whole fans cheering when he got hurt. So to some people it just looks like Werth hates us without reason because they never heard the first part of the story

  11. Steve

    September 27, 2012 12:07 PM

    I certainly wouldn’t say that Werth has handled himself perfectly since his departure when it comes to talking about Philly fans, but whatever. He got a lot of money and probably doesn’t give a crap what people think of what he says.

    What’s confusing to me–and is part of why I’m generally in agreement with this piece–is the fact that right now the way the story’s being written (at least in everything I’ve read since last night’s game), everyone’s talking like Philly fans treated Werth with some kind of undying love the whole time he was here. Didn’t everyone hate him for some stupid reason or another during that cold stretch he had in 2010? Or am I imagining that?

    Oh well.

  12. Eli

    September 27, 2012 12:19 PM

    As I recall, when Werth first signed with the Nationals, many of the angry fans claimed it wasn’t the money that upset them, but the fact that he chose to play for a losing team. Of course, this was always an absurd thing to say, because there were strong signs that the Nationals would be a contender within only a few years.

  13. Lauree Padgett

    September 27, 2012 12:22 PM

    Jayson and the entire team hit a dry spell in 2010, but he came out of it in time to pretty much carry them offensively into the playoffs, even with the free agency looming over his head and knowing had Victorino not gotten hurt prior to the July training deadline, he might have left the team sooner. He’s got a very dry wit, and I’m sure like most pro athletes, he can shrug off most boos. However, he was justifiably hurt when fans, however small in number, jeered as he left the field in May. The Phils and Amaro made it clear keeping Werth was not a priority, yet some fans continue to hold this against him. In some ways, booing can signify respect for opposing players: we boo because we know they are good and can beat us. The kinds of boos Werth gets at least from a portion of Phillies fans — and watching the 9th inning incident on TV last night, we are talking about an entire section or two, not just one or two inebriated idiots — is not defensible. Those fans can boo and jeer all they want and call him a sell-out, but they cannot really use the taunt “Get used to losing” anymore. Surely Jayson is smiling about that.

  14. JR

    September 27, 2012 12:39 PM

    The fans are not reacting to Werth as a player. Lets be honest – Werth can be an ass, or as one above said, a troll. That is not to say that some Phils fans are not asses also. However, Werth clearly has played a baiting game with writers/fans going back to his playing days here. The Phllies clearly got their monies werth when he played here. However, I don’t think the same will be said about the Nationals by the end of his contract. Lets see how National’s fans treat him in a few years

    If you want to shame Phils fans for misplaced hate – how about Greg Dobbs. All they remember is the 2010 season – an admitted disaster. However, on average over his four seasons, his performance as a Phil was just what you would expect from someone making his level of salary. In addition, their aren’t many better people in baseball than Dobbs.

  15. bernie

    September 27, 2012 12:42 PM

    I’m not a huge boo-er (not sure if that is really a word, but best I can think of), but I understand it at certain times – boo anyone with the last name of Drew (don’t care if related or not), anyone in the tri-state area with Cowboys regalia (or Braves or Penguins, don’t care enough about basketball to muster up a boo), or anyone supporting Nazis (real Nazis). Cheering during an injury is never called for (even if JD Drew).

    I think the Werth hatred started when Howard’s contract extension was announced – everyone knew Werth wouldn’t be signed, so there was that group that started to hate him because he’s leaving anyway sort of thing (just like dumping a girlfriend before she breaks up with you). After the Howard contract, Werth couldn’t buy a hit when runners in scoring position, which fueled the fire more. Based on interviews,…, he’s socially awkward at best, but I’m still a fan of his, and am rooting for the Nats now that the Phils are out of it. The Mets aren’t going to be rivals any time soon, so I’m looking forward to a Phils-Nats rivalry, and hoping Werth is a big part of it (also hoping that we come out on the winning side more often than not). I don’t get the hatred, but typical of the idiot few making the rest of us look bad.

  16. Cutter

    September 27, 2012 12:48 PM

    For some fans, a player leaving town for a large sum of money is always going to sit the wrong way.

    It seemed like last year, Werth was actually treated well in his returns to Philly. He got the boos and harsh treatment mostly in games played in Washington.

    I believe that was part of the whole “Philly takes over DC” movement where the visiting fans seemed to go out of their way to let the Nationals fans know that they were Phillies fans and had taken over the park.

    This season, I think fans are annoyed about the way the Nationals have made a point to target the Phillies with their various advertising campaigns such as “Take Back the Park.” It would have been only mildly annoying if the Nats hadn’t surpassed the Phillies on the field.

    Considering that Werth made the apparent correct decision to go with the Nats, it makes him a very easy target for any Phillies fan with an anti-Nats mindset.

    When Werth made his “Never see another parade” comment, that pretty much turned the rest of the fanbase against him.

  17. tomg

    September 27, 2012 01:08 PM

    To be clear – since there seems to be some unfamiliarity with the relatively common rhetorical trope hyperbole – I don’t think the Phillies franchise or all Phillies fans deserve never to have another world championship. Furthermore, I don’t think world championship droughts in general – such as the Cubs’ or (until ’04) the Red Sox’s – are caused by “curses”. They are the result of numerous different circumstances – bad drafting; bad luck; franchise poverty; Bartman. (<– Those are the only known causes.) But whatever the causes, the cure for those droughts would be your franchise’s front office obtaining really good players at as low a cost as possible – players like, O … I dunno, picking randomly, here … Jayson Werth.

    My point was that the treatment Werth received that night in DC from some Phillies fans was far more egregious an affront – to someone who helped bring us a championship! – than anything the Cubs or Red Sox fans may have done to “earn a curse” for their clubs. If there were such a thing as deserved curses for past evils (which, let me be clear, there is not), then what those Phillies fans did is far more deserving of one. For his contributions to that ’08 championship, Werth deserves better treatment than he routinely gets from many Phillies fans now; certainly better than what he got that night in DC.

    So … quick tutorial above in how simple rhetoric works, for those who were absent that day in 5th grade.

    But more important than that by far, I want to point out that the thing I said about Chicagoans and billygoats was not merely rhetorical: I actually believe that everyone who attends a baseball game at Wrigley is literally a goat-fucker. I stand by that assertion.

    I trust that that was clear the first time around.

  18. KH

    September 27, 2012 01:55 PM

    Low brows like Angelo Cataldi inciting the lowest common denominator is responsible for the vast majority of this along with us versus them and herd mentalities. It’s disgraceful. The guy was as important as anybody but Chase Utley among position players in 08 and 09 for the Phillies rise to 2 straight world series. When family or friends try to express that kind of ridiculous sentiment toward, and sadly it has happened quite a few times, Werth I shut them down on the spot.

  19. tomg

    September 27, 2012 03:02 PM

    Just want to see if this will end the italics I caused by not properly closing my tag in my previous comment. (I assume that’s why KH’s is all italics, too. Sorry.)

  20. Frank Reynolds

    September 27, 2012 03:35 PM

    Jayson Werth was very good for the phillies when he was here. I appreciate what he did when he was here. I realize and recognize his contributions however, I was never a big fan of him. I have nothing against the guy and I never did he was just not one of my favorite phillies. I am not really sure why I just never like him or Pat Burrell a lot. I also think that Werth wants to get a rise out of the phillies fans and he got what he wanted. I personally would not boo him but I don’t have a problem with those that do. Cheering an injury is a different story it’s pathetic.

  21. Frank Reynolds

    September 27, 2012 03:36 PM

    *when

  22. Tom

    September 27, 2012 05:55 PM

    OK. Just read all the comments, and I get that everyone thinks Werth a good dude who did a lot for the Phils in the day.
    When you say, justified or not, you want the Phils to never win another championship and you’re going to do your best to make that happen, I’m going to boo you at every chance I get. And I’m not going to like you. Basically, everyone on here is saying that it’s ok for Werth to react badly to a few fans acting badly, but we should then still like him. I did like him until he decided to go on a vendetta against my team. Now I don’t, and his reaction is just as unjustified as the fans that were cheering his injury. He’s taking personal insult from a few fans and spreading it to a whole organization. Gotta disagree on this one.

  23. Robin Mitchell-Boyask

    September 27, 2012 07:37 PM

    Why has nobody discussed the shocking spectacle of Roy Halladay being booed last Saturday? To me, that is the low point of Philadelphia fan behavior over the past decade.

    I almost get the booing of Werth. Werth gets booed in part because he is/was a jerk (check on-field behavior which is confirmed if you’ve ever talked to someone who has dealt with him more than casually). Drew booing is fine; battery-throwing not. The Rolen booing has been an embarrassment for a long time; he didn’t want to play for a bad manager (Bowa) and for owners who didn’t care.

    But Roy Halladay? I could give a rat’s ass whether Werth is booed. People who boo Doc should be removed from CBP and not allowed to return.

  24. GB

    September 27, 2012 09:48 PM

    Bravo Bill! I had to post a comment thnking you for cutting through the talk radio filth and stating what Werth did here and what his position is on these issues since he left. Could not have said it better…

  25. MIke S

    September 28, 2012 06:32 AM

    Does anyone remember in Werth’s last year, a small boy and his father reached for a foul ball and may have interfered with Werth on a makeable play? Jayson slammed his glove, glared at the child and father – both Phillies fans, and yelled what appeared to be obscenities at them. That was when my opinion of Jayson started to turn sour.

    I just keep putting me and my son in those shoes. Phils game, I’m just proud to have my kid there, close foul ball, and a player my kid might look up to reacting like that, classy.

  26. Bill Baer

    September 28, 2012 06:36 AM

    If your kid’s first experience with curse words is with a professional baseball player, you have sheltered that poor child and are setting him/her up for failure.

  27. JR

    September 28, 2012 07:55 AM

    Bill – so it is OK for a player to curse at the fans but not the other way around? In addition, I kind of wish there were more “sheltered kids” in the world. Nothing more attractive then a ten year old with a potty mouth.

  28. Bill Baer

    September 28, 2012 07:56 AM

    There’s a difference between using foul language in frustration when they interfere with a ball in play than when fans heckle you after you suffer a potentially career-ending injury.

  29. Cutter

    September 28, 2012 07:58 AM

    Bill, regardless of the child’s previous exposure to profanity, you certainly can’t be saying that what Werth did in that situation was acceptable.

  30. Scott G

    September 28, 2012 08:01 AM

    I think anyone at CBP park who interferes with a ball that a Phillies player has a chance of catching should be ejected and never allowed to return to the stadium. If you’re going to sit close enough to the field, you should be there because you want the team to win. Assuming that, you should know to get the hell out of the way. When Werth yelled at the fans, I think it made me like him more.

  31. Bill Baer

    September 28, 2012 08:02 AM

    I have no problem with players using foul language in general, and especially not when fans interfere with live balls in play.

    EDIT: I agree with Scott. Banhammer the idiot fans.

  32. David D.

    September 28, 2012 08:11 AM

    To bring up a comparable example. I remember Pat Burrell getting a cheer his first at bat back at the park. After that he was booed basically everytime. The only reason it never evolved into its own creature was that he wasn’t particularly good with the Giants and didnt hurt us.

    Werth makes the classic mistake of responding to the taunts and being a decent player still. He was my favorite player by the way. hulk smash

  33. chris

    September 28, 2012 03:36 PM

    werth was a great player for us he helped us win a championship here but i mean what he said was a little out of line just because of some idiots in the stands wishing that we never win again is stupid and disrespectful not only to the fans but to the phils front office and the guys he won with that are still here i mean lets be real the phils gave him his shot when everybody else in the league gave up on him and come think about it they prolly could have let him go after the 2007 season cause he really didnt light up that year anyway but they didnt they stayed with him

  34. Kate

    September 28, 2012 04:57 PM

    Bill, THANK YOU. This is spot on. You say everything I try to tell people about Werth only you say it 10x better. I have been and always will be a huge Werth fan. Much respect to you for this!

  35. Olivia

    September 29, 2012 04:44 PM

    I agree 1000% with everything in this post. Thought it was dumb initially for people to dump on Jayson for leaving for D.C. Felt anger and shame as a Phillies’ fan at the actions of the CB jerks after he broke his wrist. Hate that it seems the bulk of the sheep-like fanbase at CBP are now drinking the Koolaid when it comes to him. HATE the stupid booing…of JW, Dobbs, Pap after he blew his first save after going 17/17, and especially, of Roy Halladay, who clearly is laboring with some kind of injury/physical issue. Sad that the behavior of a subset of Phils’ fans makes all of us look like a**holes.

  36. Kevin

    September 29, 2012 10:15 PM

    Look, I am sorry Jayson left Philly. My wife and I liked him. My daughter WORSHIPPED him! I hated he got hurt, too. His first game back in Philly, we had seats in right field so we could cheer him. We shouted down, along with literally thousands of other Phillies fans, jerks who booed and cursed him all night. But look, WE didn’t boo him, we cheered him! Couldn’t he hear that? If 200 people out of 44,000 boo you, do you focus on the a**h***s? Apparently, if your name is Jayson Werth, you do. You make what, to me anyway, were hurtful words against a fanbase that supported and loved him. Yeah, we have a bad rep in the City of Brotherly Love, and MOST of it is deserved. Thing is, not all of it is. We never booed Pat Burrell. Kyle Lohse? Nope. Scott Rolen? yep, but good old Scooter made some harsh statements about us, and made sure that by the time he left he wouldn’t be missed. I don’t know why Jayson has decided to grab hold of the hatred spewed by a small percentage. Don’t know why HE decided to rachet it up with his antics last week, either. But PLEASE, don’t lay all this crap on ALL the Philly fans. Most of us cheer, and enjoy the game. We don’t ALL throw snowballs at Santa!

  37. Scott G

    October 01, 2012 07:53 AM

    Kevin,

    Burrell frequently got booed here while he was on the team. He got booed when he came back with the Giants, too.

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