Talking Phillies-Mets with’s Ted Berg

I joined‘s Ted Berg (@OGTedBerg) to preview the upcoming Phillies-Mets series. We talk about the Phillies’ shrinking playoff hopes, Roy Halladay‘s struggles, Cliff Lee‘s resurgence, Tyler Cloyd‘s future, and Cole Hamels‘ side job as a model.

Ted’s embarrassing photos of Cole Hamels archive.

Your starting pitching match-ups for the series (Updated!):

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  1. Frank Reynolds

    September 17, 2012 06:17 PM

    I hate to admitt it but I do like RA Dickey. I have not read his book yet but I have read a couple articles about him. I want him to win the CY Young he deserves it. I don’t think I have ever liked a Mets player but I like this guy.

  2. LTG

    September 17, 2012 08:30 PM

    Yeah, I saw that. But didn’t Cameron pick out the Braves and Orioles as teams for whom the strategy would be plausible? I don’t think he meant the strategy is best independent of rotation and bullpen quality.

  3. pedro3131

    September 17, 2012 09:31 PM

    He mentioned the Braves, I can’t remember if it was the article or the reddit thread that talked about the Orioles. Still though, the Braves have some pretty good arms in their starting rotation, and not knowing anything about how good Kimbrel is in non save situations (think Papelbon or Putz) I would think that using a starter for atleast 4 innings would make the most sense. M

  4. LTG

    September 18, 2012 11:18 AM


    You have now changed your objection and the new one is based on a phenomenon I doubt exists. But even if it did, managers could choose to employ this strategy occasionally throughout the season to acclimate relievers to it and to rest starters. Charlie did this with Valdez et al. during a double header. And it might have been better to start with relievers in the first game against the Astros rather than use Cloyd as a starter on 3 days rest.

    Your last sentence shows you missed part of the justification for starting with relievers. By using relievers first the manager can better evaluate which of his starters is worth bringing into the game. If it’s close, #1 or #2. If not, the bottom of the rotation. It raises the likelihood that 1 and 2 in the rotation will pitch twice in the DS. If you start with a starter you have to use your best.

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