Charlie Manuel: What the hell? Keep Crying

The Phillies were accused by the Colorado Rockies and the New York Mets of stealing signs from the bullpen. Not surprising news, given that this has been par for the course over the past few years. Most managers would play it safe with a “no comment” but not Charlie Manuel. He gave us a gold mine of quotes when responding to the allegations.

Via Todd Zolecki:

“Absolutely no,” Charlie Manuel said of the accusations. “Absolutely (bleeping) no. Absolutely not.”


So why do so many teams think the Phillies are stealing signs?


“Because we beat them,” Manuel said. “That’s why. What the hell? Keep crying. I’m sure if they can steal signs they’ll steal them. And believe we will, too, if we can get them. Yeah, we will. Legally. If you’re dumb enough to let us get them then that’s your fault. That’s been in the game for a long time.”

For those comments alone, Charlie Manuel could run for mayor unopposed.

Remember when he was universally hated by Phillies fans in 2005 because he wasn’t Jim Leyland? Times sure have changed. Chuck can say and do whatever he pleases. It must be a nice feeling.

When asked about the allegations by the Mets, Manuel had a suggestion:

“Somebody ought to check on the Mets if they did (complain) because their … home record is out of this world and they’re losing on the road,” Manuel said. “That’s a good indication sometimes, if you want to know about signs and (stuff). When I see somebody is 17-2 at home and 4-12 on the road I kind of get concerned about that. That kind of crosses my mind.”

While I don’t quite buy Chuck’s logic (small sample size), I sure do appreciate the sentiment.

As far as I’m concerned, the Phillies are doing absolutely nothing wrong as long as they’re within MLB rules. Every team should be attempting to steal the other team’s signs and if they’re not, they’re not doing their jobs.

Tip of the cap to @Phylan for the awesome shot of Mick Billmeyer doing his job.

Finally, Crossing Broad gives us another reason to worship Chuck:

Now, you can take this one with a grain of salt, this is hearsay at its finest.  A source, who is rather connected, said Charlie Manuel attended dinner with Tommy Lasorda in New York the night before Game 1 of the WORLD SERIES.  According to source, who was in attendance, Charlie remained out late (1:30am, really Charlie?) and got very drunk.

Fair enough.

Here’s where it becomes the thing legends are made of.  When my source said, “Charlie, don’t you have a game in like 16 hours?”, Charlie replied “Fuck it. I have Lee pitching”.
Can we just give him his plaque on the Wall of Fame at Citizens Bank Park already? Hell, give him a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I don’t care if the quote is unverified!

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  1. David

    May 12, 2010 10:37 PM

    Wow, I sure hope that story is true.

    That’s brilliant.

    Nice work.

  2. Alan

    May 13, 2010 12:40 AM

    I love Charlie. To think he could be out until 1:30 eating with Tommy LaSorda, and then be a weight loss success story…all while managing the juggernaut of the NL…he is THE MAN!

  3. DP

    May 13, 2010 01:59 AM

    I don’t know if they were stealing signs, it seems like a pretty shaky accusation. But if Billmeyer was relaying signs to Shane, I could see it breaking the rules, since the phone is electronic and is technically aiding in the alleged sign-stealing.

  4. michael scott

    May 15, 2010 07:20 AM


    You are a MAN. Players play and you manage. You’re doing a great job! Getting them to play everyday is truly an art! You are a true leader

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