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		<title>By: Bill Baer</title>
		<link>http://crashburnalley.com/2009/11/30/making-consistency-count/comment-page-1/#comment-14329</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Baer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you have two bad pitchers of equivalent skill, you&#039;re actually better off (theoretically) signing the inconsistent one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you have two bad pitchers of equivalent skill, you&#8217;re actually better off (theoretically) signing the inconsistent one.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://crashburnalley.com/2009/11/30/making-consistency-count/comment-page-1/#comment-14323</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, thanks Bill!

That&#039;s exactly what I was wondering.  Interesting...

So, no point to trying to sign inconsistent bad pitchers!  They might just have to settle for trying to sign GOOD pitchers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, thanks Bill!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I was wondering.  Interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>So, no point to trying to sign inconsistent bad pitchers!  They might just have to settle for trying to sign GOOD pitchers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Baer</title>
		<link>http://crashburnalley.com/2009/11/30/making-consistency-count/comment-page-1/#comment-14282</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Baer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

The ubiquitous Eric Seidman e-mailed me after I posted this. He too studied the same thing in a similar fashion.

To quote his message about his findings:

&lt;i&gt;1) Consistency doesn&#039;t really correlate to success on any level--inconsistent guys were just as likely to have good numbers as consistent guys

2) Consistency itself is inconsistent.  Over a multi-year span, running an intra-class correlation, pitchers consistent one year were in no way guaranteed to be consistent moving forward, meaning it is not a repeatable skill.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>The ubiquitous Eric Seidman e-mailed me after I posted this. He too studied the same thing in a similar fashion.</p>
<p>To quote his message about his findings:</p>
<p><i>1) Consistency doesn&#8217;t really correlate to success on any level&#8211;inconsistent guys were just as likely to have good numbers as consistent guys</p>
<p>2) Consistency itself is inconsistent.  Over a multi-year span, running an intra-class correlation, pitchers consistent one year were in no way guaranteed to be consistent moving forward, meaning it is not a repeatable skill.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be &quot;year to year&quot;, not &quot;year to you&quot;... Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be &#8220;year to year&#8221;, not &#8220;year to you&#8221;&#8230; Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://crashburnalley.com/2009/11/30/making-consistency-count/comment-page-1/#comment-14278</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thought:

I wonder if inconsistency is a &quot;skill&quot;, IE, is it repeatable?  Does it correlate year to year?

So, in your chosen measure, is the SD in a players game score something that correlates from year to you?

I bet that correlation exists but could be very, very weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thought:</p>
<p>I wonder if inconsistency is a &#8220;skill&#8221;, IE, is it repeatable?  Does it correlate year to year?</p>
<p>So, in your chosen measure, is the SD in a players game score something that correlates from year to you?</p>
<p>I bet that correlation exists but could be very, very weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://crashburnalley.com/2009/11/30/making-consistency-count/comment-page-1/#comment-14277</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, more or less this same thing was studied in brief a few months ago on Baseball Think Factory, in a post by Dan Szymborski.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/barry_zito_consistency_and_the_2009_giants/

Ahhh...  The &quot;Stochastinator&quot;, my favorite made up word from the world of sabermetrics. :)

From the looks of this, he found - in a theoretical study - essentially the same thing you found in your real world one.

You essentially won&#039;t win any games when a pitcher gives up 14 runs per nine, but you&#039;ll hardly win any games when a pitcher gives up 7 either, so you&#039;d much rather have a pitcher who gives up 1 run, then 14, than one who gives up around 7 every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, more or less this same thing was studied in brief a few months ago on Baseball Think Factory, in a post by Dan Szymborski.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/barry_zito_consistency_and_the_2009_giants/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/barry_zito_consistency_and_the_2009_giants/</a></p>
<p>Ahhh&#8230;  The &#8220;Stochastinator&#8221;, my favorite made up word from the world of sabermetrics. <img src='http://crashburnalley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>From the looks of this, he found &#8211; in a theoretical study &#8211; essentially the same thing you found in your real world one.</p>
<p>You essentially won&#8217;t win any games when a pitcher gives up 14 runs per nine, but you&#8217;ll hardly win any games when a pitcher gives up 7 either, so you&#8217;d much rather have a pitcher who gives up 1 run, then 14, than one who gives up around 7 every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have actually done some work on this of pitcher consistency.  I have done some work and need to get to publishing the results, but I found that the key is to game out come is run support and the game score.  I found by dividing game scores depending on teams run support into Win, Maybe and Lose buckets the team&#039;s chance of winning the game can be determined.  The buckets are set at the 90% chance of a Win or a loss threshold.  I have the 2009 Phillies around 5.0 runs/games.  From what I have found so far, game scores of 35 or less will 90% of the time be a loss and game scores of 55 or more will be win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have actually done some work on this of pitcher consistency.  I have done some work and need to get to publishing the results, but I found that the key is to game out come is run support and the game score.  I found by dividing game scores depending on teams run support into Win, Maybe and Lose buckets the team&#8217;s chance of winning the game can be determined.  The buckets are set at the 90% chance of a Win or a loss threshold.  I have the 2009 Phillies around 5.0 runs/games.  From what I have found so far, game scores of 35 or less will 90% of the time be a loss and game scores of 55 or more will be win.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if game score Std. Deviation correlates with (I would assume negatively) Free Agent salaries.  In other words, do teams pay for consistency?  Or do they just pay for the production and leverage it as they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if game score Std. Deviation correlates with (I would assume negatively) Free Agent salaries.  In other words, do teams pay for consistency?  Or do they just pay for the production and leverage it as they see fit.</p>
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