Comments on: Looking Back on the Brett Myers Era http://crashburnalley.com/2009/10/23/looking-back-on-the-brett-myers-era/ Philadelphia Phillies baseball analysis that everyone can enjoy. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:49:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jay Ballz http://crashburnalley.com/2009/10/23/looking-back-on-the-brett-myers-era/comment-page-1/#comment-15026 Jay Ballz Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:20:56 +0000 http://crashburnalley.com/?p=563#comment-15026 Myers will be missed. I think many of us knew all 2009 long that Myers would be this season's Burrell. Myers will be missed. I think many of us knew all 2009 long that Myers would be this season’s Burrell.

]]> By: Spencer http://crashburnalley.com/2009/10/23/looking-back-on-the-brett-myers-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12724 Spencer Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:19:58 +0000 http://crashburnalley.com/?p=563#comment-12724 I don't know if I buy the unlucky part of things - yes he may be unlucky, but that doesn't explain away his reaction to his poor luck. One of the most impressive things about J.A. Happ at his age is his composure - he reminds me of the Braves pitchers of the early 90's in that fashion. Lee is the same way - and the rest of the team is also. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out 2010 through 2011. You may decide to lock Lee up beyond next year if you're not comfortable with Hamels being your ace in '11 - and if you're not comfortable with him being your ace at that point - maybe you cut bait. He has a lot of growing up to do in the next twelve months. I don’t know if I buy the unlucky part of things – yes he may be unlucky, but that doesn’t explain away his reaction to his poor luck. One of the most impressive things about J.A. Happ at his age is his composure – he reminds me of the Braves pitchers of the early 90’s in that fashion. Lee is the same way – and the rest of the team is also.

It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out 2010 through 2011. You may decide to lock Lee up beyond next year if you’re not comfortable with Hamels being your ace in ‘11 – and if you’re not comfortable with him being your ace at that point – maybe you cut bait.

He has a lot of growing up to do in the next twelve months.

]]> By: Bill Baer http://crashburnalley.com/2009/10/23/looking-back-on-the-brett-myers-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12723 Bill Baer Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:51:47 +0000 http://crashburnalley.com/?p=563#comment-12723 As <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9673" rel="nofollow">Matt Swartz</a> pointed out at Baseball Prospectus, Cole Hamels in ‘09 is basically the same pitcher he was in ‘08, just unluckier. I think it would be a mistake to trade Hamels first and foremost, and it would be a mistake to even attempt to trade him. When I was on Pro Baseball Central last night, Steve Keane was asking me about Hamels as well. I have no problem with his performance this year, though it was clearly a disappointment. As I mentioned to Keane, my beef with Hamels is his immaturity, which was on display when he threw a fit when Rollins and Utley couldn’t come up with a double play in the NLDS. If the Phillies attempted to trade Hamels and did not pull the trigger, I don’t want to know how Hamels would react to that, but I’d guess he would react poorly. He may demand to be traded, reducing the Phillies’ leverage in bargaining. He may turn into a turtle, if you catch my drift. It’s just not a gamble worth taking. Of course, as you mention, it’s not at all likely. Still, it’s not something that should even be considered at this point. As Matt Swartz pointed out at Baseball Prospectus, Cole Hamels in ‘09 is basically the same pitcher he was in ‘08, just unluckier. I think it would be a mistake to trade Hamels first and foremost, and it would be a mistake to even attempt to trade him.

When I was on Pro Baseball Central last night, Steve Keane was asking me about Hamels as well. I have no problem with his performance this year, though it was clearly a disappointment. As I mentioned to Keane, my beef with Hamels is his immaturity, which was on display when he threw a fit when Rollins and Utley couldn’t come up with a double play in the NLDS.

If the Phillies attempted to trade Hamels and did not pull the trigger, I don’t want to know how Hamels would react to that, but I’d guess he would react poorly. He may demand to be traded, reducing the Phillies’ leverage in bargaining. He may turn into a turtle, if you catch my drift. It’s just not a gamble worth taking.

Of course, as you mention, it’s not at all likely. Still, it’s not something that should even be considered at this point.

]]> By: Spencer http://crashburnalley.com/2009/10/23/looking-back-on-the-brett-myers-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12721 Spencer Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:10:56 +0000 http://crashburnalley.com/?p=563#comment-12721 In regards to Cole being a lock for next year. First off let me say I don't think this will happen, but he is pretty tradable isn't he? He has two years left on his contract and has been a stud on this team in the past. If you decided that Kyle Drabek was ready at the beginning of the season (not likely) and you also decide to stay with either Pedro or Moyer - could you decide to see what Hamels gets you in return? Again - I don't think this is at all likely, but I have to believe there could be conversations. Hamels needs to step up next year. In regards to Cole being a lock for next year. First off let me say I don’t think this will happen, but he is pretty tradable isn’t he? He has two years left on his contract and has been a stud on this team in the past. If you decided that Kyle Drabek was ready at the beginning of the season (not likely) and you also decide to stay with either Pedro or Moyer – could you decide to see what Hamels gets you in return?

Again – I don’t think this is at all likely, but I have to believe there could be conversations. Hamels needs to step up next year.

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