Comments on: Why Vote for Webb When You Can Vote for Hamels?

By: Top O’ The Order: David Eckstein gets hero’s welcome in StL

Top O’ The Order: David Eckstein gets hero’s welcome in StL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:56:57 +0000

[...] 3. Emboldened by the Brad Lidge for Cy Young talk, a Phillies fan makes his case for why Cole Hamels is a better candidate than Brandon Webb. [Crashburn Alley] [...]

By: 100% Injury Rate

100% Injury Rate — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:55:16 +0000

Lincecum all the way.

By: NastyEmu

NastyEmu — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:00:35 +0000

The Cy Young is Lincecum’s. No doubt about it.

By: Bill Baer

Bill Baer — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:45:10 +0000

Sophist, that’s actually a very good point and well-put. Entire bullpens should be eligible to win a Cy Young award, as opposed to an individual player. The IP is comparable and that’s the basis of the “starters are more important than relievers” argument.

It’d be interesting to see where the ‘08 Phils’ bullpen ranks on the list of best overall bullpen performances. I guess you’d go all the way back to the ’80’s since that’s when bullpens really started being utilized.

By: Sophist

Sophist — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:31:35 +0000

Here’s one way to quantify how good the Phils’ BP has been, while still doing justice to the starting pitchers out there.

Durbin, Madson, Lidge, Romero, Seanez are the RP that have thrown 20 IP or more at home. These are the big names in the Phils pen this year. Combined they’ve pitched ~90% of the total relief appearances for the Phillies at home.

These 5 guys have allowed 11 HR in 208.7 IP at home. That’s good for .479 HR/9.

Here’s the contrast/comparison.

Tim Lincecum has pitched 215.2 IP this year. He’s allowed 10 HR. .42 HR/9.

Can you give the CY to a group of relievers?

By: GM-Carson

GM-Carson — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:15:37 +0000

I’d be giving Brad Lidge some votes. Webb, Hamels, and Lincecum should all get votes too.